SUBSCRIBE chat center Gazette|Chatboards|Lessons|Projects|Classifieds|Mailrings|Jobs|Harry Wong|Live!|Advertise SUBMIT POST ALL POSTS TOP POSTS Share | Print | Report Post California Teachers Chatboard Search Teachers.Net Advanced Quick Links: Set Subscribe to CA-Teachers Hot Now... • August 2008 Gazette • Teacher Tech Center • The Lesson Bank Most Popular • Set Your Quick Links • Chat Center • All Chatboards • Lesson Bank • Teacher Mailrings • Project Center • Classified Ads • Live Chat & Meetings Select by • State/Region • Grade Level • Curriculum • Interest Group • Teaching Method Special Topics • Technology • Languages • Hot Topics • Career Center • Distance Learning • Fundraising • Tutoring Center • Teacher's Bookshelf • Free Printables • Classroom Photos • Meeting Archive • Teaching Articles • Library • Web Tools • Webring • Search • Advertise   Re: Seniority Date Posted by Cal-Kid on 5/19/08 On 5/16/08, Thank You Cal Kid.....another question wrote: > Here is my situation. I have been teaching since 2004 at > my district. The first 2 years on a probationary contract > then on a permanent tenured contract for the last 2 > years. My seniority date is listed as 9/7/04. > > The teacher who may bump me taught on an emergency permit > who had a temporary contract from 2001-02 to 2005-06 and > on an intern credential from 2006-07 to present. Our > contract says that your seniority date is determined by > your first day on a probationary contract. This would be > 9/7/06 for him. They just posted a revised seniority list > and his date was not 9/7/06, but 9/11/01, which was the > first day he taught with an emergency credential. The > teacher is very well liked on staff by our union rep. The > union rep warned me today that I am the lowest according > to the seniority date and I may be bumped. What can I > do? How do I challenge his seniority date? Or can I > challenge the seniority date? I am not sure on this one, but if that teacher is an intern, like project pipeline then this is like a contract and the teacher has that amount of time to full fill the contract, which is to earn the appropriate credential. So this is an agreement between the intern, project pipeline and the district. Only a few needy districts use project pipeline. This way the intern gets paid, can pay back the tuition costs and earn the credential. I know that if a temporary teacher finally gets on probationary track and then tenured the district can count the temporary years as the date of hire which that is what it seems like they did. But you are right in reading the language about the date of hire being the first probationary year. I think the other poster gave good advice about having the union president look into it, but remember the union president also represents the other member too. So sometimes their hands get tied. If you are not pinked slipped but transferred then you still have a job. If you are laid off (pink slipped as in no job) then there is usually an administrative law hearing for all members laid off and this would be a good time to bring this up with the union lawyer, the union president. You also get to testify at this hearing. The judge will read the contract exactly as you read it. It would work in your favor. Posts on this thread, including this one Seniority Date, 5/16/08, by Thank You Cal Kid.....another question. Re: Seniority Date, 5/17/08, by lj/CA. Re: Seniority Date, 5/19/08, by Cal-Kid.

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